Today, December 8th, would be Janโ€™s 84th birthday (Happy Birthday, Jan!).

Remembering the many gifts Jan gave to us all, below is the link to another one — a recent interview with Debra Jarvis. Debra, an ordained minister, has been a hospital and hospice chaplain for over 35 years.

Recorded on 09/09/25, the interview, Mattering, is 27 minutes of the essence of Jan: generous, enlightening, and uplifting.

You can listen here:
https://www.thefinalsaypodcast.com/episodes/episode/5495ba90/mattering.

A Celebration of Life is planned for 1โ€“3pm PST on January 24, 2026, at the Unitarian Universalist Society of Sacramento. For those who cannot attend, the ceremony will be livestreamed at https://youtube.com/@uusstv?si=OrCskAuuypO7HWqo.